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Asana vs. Trello

Introduction

Progress System Recap:

    1. The progress system uses boards rather than to do’s, though your team and yourself will have plenty of tasks to check off.
    2. You work from checklist/systems/process list to Current Sprint-30-60-90, then q’s impediments, working on, waiting on, and DONE!
    3. You’re in luck because both Asana and Trello offer board functionality.

Wondering what is right, wrong, easy, hard, business/life hack-able? Let me give you a brief rundown of each, why we love/hate/indifferent on certain aspects. Just remember, there is no wrong or right answer. The only thing I would caution you on is using both (there are people who do) for project management.

Asana

Features Summary:

Boards are relatively new to Asana, but it makes running a Scrum-like system pretty amazing where before it wasn’t possible! Visually, once you set your board up it’s practically the same thing in Trello. In Asana (board or tasks) you can easily sift through projects in the sidebar, even change up what team you are looking at.

What we love and why:

There is so much we love about Asana! I love there are 9+ more tag options for labelling tasks (color coded chaos) and the same for coordinating projects across your dashboard/sidebar. Even though I am a sucker for a clear and coded board, I do still appreciate (and use daily) the task manager feature in Asana. Sometimes I just need a quick checkoff without diving deep into the board or I need to check and see if a specific task was completed or when it was. Speaking of tasks, the subtask feature is legit and makes getting down to single level tasks very easy. I also like that you can assign repeating tasks to a person that may fall outside of the boards you have at the moment. So the functionality for managing a team is pretty awesome. Not to mention, the calendar, dashboard, project status updates, and file sharing is pretty slick.

What might not work for you:

Like I said, board functionality is new which means lots of fancy tricks and hacks are simply not available. For card creation, you may have 3-7 extra clicks or places to provide info compared to Trello or other platforms. To work around that you might want to upload a csv to workaround the extra clicks, but unfortunately Asana isn’t setup to organize parent and sub-tasks on a board. So you can’t save any clicks or minutes there.

What we would love to see:

  1. CSV uploader to organize parent tasks and subtasks on a board is #1 on my Asana wish list.
  2. Easier way to automatically move cards from list to list.
  3. Velocity tracking and measuring would be fantastic!

Trello

Features Summary:

Trello is built for Scrum systems, so it’s no surprise that we love it so much. Tasks are easy to recreate, you can organize teams and projects a little more naturally, and you can move, archive, or rehome cards in the click of a button. You have tons of add ons available, like: velocity tracking, calendar, Google Drive or Dropbox, Butler, and much more to make Trello even more amazing to make managing your boards a breeze.

What we love and why:

Color coordination is great for both tasks and boards. I color coded my boards to my brand colors (Template, Clients, My Projects) by upgrading to Trello Gold and the perks are worth the $50. I cannot emphasize enough how the automation for moving cards, archiving, copying, and adding standard checklists are timesavers. It is a breeze to setup a new board or copy and customize projects! Velocity tracking is so easy, we use the Chrome extension Scrum for Trello. It will transform your progress! We regularly use a CSV importer and it makes creating an entire board so easy!

What might not work for you:

Checklists are awesome, but as you grow your team some checklists may need to be divided into smaller sub-tasks and assigned out to multiple team members, which is clunky in Trello. Add-ons are cool, but you can find many of those features built in with other platforms.

What we would love to see:

  1. The ability to add parent and sub-tasks with due dates!
  2. More colors for tagging.
  3. No restrictions in how many add ons you can have per board.

Make it work for you:

My rule of thumb: If you are starting out or have less than 3 team members, Trello is for you! Especially if you run the Progress System exactly like I teach or even adapt it to your style. You can get around the parent/sub-task issue and use the CSV importer to make things go even faster. But once you grow beyond 3 team members, I would look at moving to a more robust platform- like Asana. You’ll be able to really dive into tasks, manage from multiple perspectives, and keep things nice and tidy.

Conclusion:

There’s no right or wrong answer for this. Really, you have to look at your team, your projects, and where you see yourself in the next 6 months. I’ve built and run multiple projects on both platforms. You’ll need your systems down and to continue to refine and adapt over time, but all of that makes your life so much easier. I would stress that velocity tracking is incredibly critical when you run the Progress System. So if you move to Asana, you’ll want to keep a log of it by hand or spreadsheet (by hand is what I do) to make sure you are increasing speed and keeping high quality control. I think you might even have a better feel of velocity when you do keep the handwritten log. All in all, seeing your tasks move to the DONE! column is a glorious feeling no matter if you are in Asana or Trello.

Why your to do list is killing your process?

Your to do list is actually slowly killing your progress! I know, I know. You love having those to do’s with Most Important Tasks and New Ideas just waiting to be checked off. But in reality, a to do list (without action oriented tasks) are just mental clutter and progress blockers.

Here’s what you most likely have setup in real life:

Standard Operating Procedures
Projects Goals + General Plans lined out
Team (large or small) on board

What you don’t see in your current setup are all the little things you need to do: review, draft, fire off new round of content, oversight, updates that don’t really fall into anyone’s plate, check ins, etc.

These are those things that kinda fall through the cracks. They might be assigned to anyone in particular, but need to get done none-the-less. So it defaults to your separate to do list.

Reasons your to do list is killing your progress, here’s why:

Reason 1: Transparency is lacking.
When it comes down to it, lack of transparency is most noticable and progress killing when as your team is working you are working on your regular responsibilities PLUS your own separate list of “stuff” (many things could be handed off if only your team knew).

Reason 2: It always takes longer than you think.
If BIG tasks aren’t broken down, you can’t estimate how long it’s gonna take you. How many times have you started on something on Wednesday, are thinking you’ll have this checked off by the afternoon, all to realize you’ve gone down a rabbit hole and now have 72 more things to do! It ended up being a little more complex that you thought.

Reason 3: Shiny object syndrome.
How many times have you wanted to try this, implement that, have the oh-my-gosh-so-amazing idea that has to be done today? You’ve just added another to do that sits on top of all the regular, on-going work and the projects you are working on currently. So you do what comes natural to creatives: You hop from one to the other. The affect of that is that nothing gets done and you’re wasting energy on a new thing that is really not the best time to work on it.

What can you do instead or do about it?

Stop 1: Keeping your to do list to yourself.
Flip the switch and make sure all those to do’s are out of your brain, into an actual project management system, and clear for your team to see. Many times that update, report, review, or draft can be delegated (happily) to another team member. Put yourself and your team on firm deadlines, no one works alone (including YOU) and you have a timetable of what needs to get done when.

Stop 2: Thinking in general terms when it comes to projects or new “stuff”.
You need to break everything down so you know exactly what you’ll need and so you can start estimating the time it will take for each piece to be completed, who can you delegate to, and when each needs to be completed. If you tell your team you are working on a new onboarding sequence, sales page, affiliate program, or blog overhaul. . . there are so many different elements that make that up. Content, graphics, tech setup, reviewing, strategy, branding, admin. . . Breaking down the general projects turns that idea into an actionable, prioritized plan.

Stop 3: Over extending yourself and putting yourself in a bind.
You can only do so much. If you take on one more thing that most likely means something needs to be removed. If you have the most genius idea, you need to press pause and ask yourself if this is replacing your existing project or should you assign this a timeframe where you can put all your mental energy towards it? Jumping from one hot idea to another means nothing will get completely 100% finished, much less done well.

None of this is rocket science, but as a creative with so many ideas + not enough time you must prioritize what you work on, be transparent, and set your team up for success.

Planning out your next 90 days strategically will help you get #allthethings out of your head and into a prioritized plan of action.

You will also be able to pace your team to take on those wonderful ideas and move projects around so you’ve put the right amount of mental energy to new (or existing) projects.

If your team doesn’t know what you are working on (the person they are hired to support) then they aren’t able to pitch in, offer new ideas, or take things OFF your plate. Of course they have what’s been assigned to them, but what about the things on your separate to do list that they might be able to do for you? This is why transparency matters to both YOU and YOUR TEAM!

If you have been keeping your to do’s to yourself, leading a team, and wishing you had time to try this or do that. . . then let’s set #allthethings into a prioritized set of plans!

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